In this podcast, Brandon, Christine, and Justin discuss the importance of pursuing your deepest desire in life. When you settle, you are hurting yourself, and robbing yourself of the joy you inherently deserve in life. We’ll show you the one question to ask to discover what your deepest desire is.
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Discussed in today’s podcast:
- [1:44]: Why People Settle for Less
- [5:58]: How I Came to Accept My Own Deepest Desire
- [9:16]: What If You Just Get Part of Your Goal?
- [12:46]: It Can Take Time to Discover Your Passion
- [18:15]: Don’t Lose the Vision of Your Purpose
- [22:32]: Let Yourself Want It All
- [27:46]: How to Discover Your Deepest Desire
- [30:43]: Why This Topic Is So Important to Me
[0:00] Brandon: Welcome to Co-Create Your Life.
This is episode 21: Never Settle for Less
Than Your Deepest Desire.
I am Brandon Olivares.
[0:43] Christine: And I’m Christine Olivares.
[0:45] Justin: And I’m Justin Williams.
[0:47] Brandon: And today we have a topic I think
will be very interesting I hope, all about
why you should go for the biggest dream that
you can—for the biggest goal that you can,
and not settle for anything less.
Because that’s something I see very commonly.
[1:03] So, before all that, I have some announcements:
[1:07] If you would like to see the show notes for
this podcast, or read the transcript, or leave
a comment, you can go to darkascent.org/create021.
[1:22] Or if you would like to ask your own question
to be answered on this podcast—actually
now we’re answering questions mostly for Readers
Questions, but we might cover a topic if you
come up with a good one.
But either way, you can go to darkascent.org/ask,
and that will let you ask a question, and
it’ll be covered somewhere.
[1:45] But, we just started a new series, Readers
I don’t know if you saw it, Justin.
I put together a video about ten minutes long,
answering a reader’s question.
I’m going to do it every Monday now.
[1:55] Justin: No, I didn’t see that.
I was going to say, I missed some stuff.
[1:58] Brandon: Well, it just got sent out this morning,
so you might be able to look at it.
[2:03] Justin: Oh, okay.
I think I did see that this morning.
[2:06] Brandon: Yeah, it was called something like,
When Should I Take Action?
[2:10] Justin: That’s it.
I saw that.
[2:13] Brandon: Yeah, so you should take a look at
Why People Settle for Less
[2:17] Brandon: Anyway, so, today we’re talking about your
deepest desires, and I’m specifically talking
about your deepest desires.
Not just any goal—not just any next level
goal—but we’re really talking about the
big stuff, the ultimate level goals, your
deepest, deepest desires.
[2:31] And, this is a topic I had written down for
a few weeks now, that I’ve been wanting to
cover, and I was thinking about what topic
to cover today.
And then I just had a session with a client
right before we went to record this podcast.
And it clinched it, because we talked about
exactly this topic pretty much, or ended up
in that place, anyway.
[2:57] So, again the question is, why is it you should
not settle for anything less?
Because what I see a lot of times happening
is that people will settle for something less.
They will accept anything that comes along,
because they’re so desperate to get what they
want that they’ll get the first thing that
[3:19] And this happens a lot with, let’s say a job.
Let’s say you’re looking for a job, and you
have a clear picture of what you want: you
have the salary you want, you know the location
you want, you know the hours you want, you
know the work environment you want, the benefits
And you get a job that matches, say, 75% of
[3:40] And you say, “Ah, that’s good!
I got something!”
And you take it.
[3:47] And then you regret it, because it wasn’t
the right choice—it wasn’t your soul’s highest
desire—it wasn’t what you really wanted
[3:55] And then you’re like, “Why did I take this?”
and you’re trying to find something better.
And it just causes a lot of pain.
[4:02] I actually had something very similar happen.
I wouldn’t say it had to do with a deepest
desire, but I’ll give some other examples
[4:10] I don’t know if I mentioned this on the site
too much, but when I first got hired for the
job I’m working at, I was desperate to get
it, because I really wanted to get off of
And I accepted the first salary that came.
[4:31] They literally asked me, “What number do
What salary do you want?”
And I said, “Well…”
[4:35] Christine: “I trust you.”
[4:37] Brandon: “I trust you.”
[4:39] Never say that by the way!
I looked up, what if someone asks you this
[4:44] Justin: Never say that!
[4:45] Brandon: Never say that.
[4:46] And someone said, “Well, it’ll show them
that you trust them, and so tell them you
And I tried it—don’t do it.
Just don’t do it.
[4:55] And I was very insecure, because I was coming
from a place where I didn’t really have a
full time job or anything in this field, so
I jumped at whatever came.
[5:04] And then, within two months, I’m just unsatisfied,
and I’m saying to myself, “I’m worth so
much more than what I got,” and it was not
good, and it was causing me to—I don’t know
about sabotage, but I just wasn’t happy, and
I knew I couldn’t continue.
[5:21] Luckily I manifested changing that situation,
and I ended up getting my salary increased
[laugh] That was interesting!
[5:34] Christine: That’s awesome.
[5:35] Brandon: That was really interesting.
[5:37] So that was cool, but just don’t do it in
the first place, because when you do that,
you’re just setting yourself up for failure.
It’s just not going to work.
[5:47] Justin: Yeah, the “I trust you” thing
is interesting—I wouldn’t do it.
You got to see that.
[5:52] Brandon: Yeah, don’t say, “I trust you.”
It doesn’t work.
[5:58] Justin: It’s different if you knew the person
that’s hiring you.
[6:04] Brandon: Yeah, no, don’t do that.
I got something way lower than I was expecting.
I’m like, “Well, it’ll go up eventually.”
And then once you work 40 hours a week for
that long, doing a very hard job, it’s like,
“You know, this is not really what I imagined.”
[6:25] Christine: It’s a lot of work.
He’s got more gray hair now working at this
[6:27] Brandon: Yes, Christine would know.
It’s a lot of work.
How I Came to Accept My Own Deepest Desire
[6:31] Brandon: And then the same thing, that now I’m working
towards—and this is actually a more positive
case—now I’m working towards what my deepest
desire really is.
[6:42] When I first got the job—and everyone who
follows my blog knows this—I went through
a lot of confusion.
And Justin, you know this more than most people,
because I was very honest, and Christine obviously
knows everything about it.
[6:58] Christine: I think I know more than Justin
[laugh] No, just kidding.
[7:01] Brandon: I should hope so.
[7:03] Justin: Funny enough, though, I’ve seen it
with people with visual disabilities, and
other disabilities in the field: they literally
did the same thing you did.
So I kind of knew you were going to do it.
[7:13] Brandon: What’s that?
[7:15] Justin: Just sort of have the angst before
you got there.
It’s sort of naturally for us.
[7:19] Brandon: Sure, because what are they going
How are they going to react?
[7:26] Justin: Yeah, so it’s sort of natural.
[7:28] Brandon: Right.
[7:32] When I first got the job, I wasn’t sure where
my life was headed.
It really changed my perspective—my outlook.
What am I doing with Co-Creation Coaching?
I didn’t post for weeks at a time in May and
June, because I just wasn’t sure where things
were going, and what I really wanted to do
with my life.
[7:57] I think that can happen sometimes.
But once I really got into the job, and once
I really started thinking about things, and
I got some space from Co-Creation Coaching,
I really started to see, you know what?
This is what I want to do long-term, as far
as Co-Creation Coaching.
[8:13] The programming thing is great, it’s enjoyable,
it’s very mentally stimulating, but it’s not
that deepest desire.
It’s not that.
It’s great—it’s a wonderful thing—but
it’s not the deepest desire.
It’s not my soul’s passion.
[8:32] And I ended up—the great thing about it,
I think it was meant to be this way though,
because it gave me the money I needed to pay
for this business coach that I got, that is
And so she’s been helping me to take Co-Creation
Coaching to the next level, so you’re going
to see tons of changes with the website.
[8:57] So that works out.
But I accepted, “This is my deepest desire.
This is what I really want to do.”
And I embraced that, and I said, “This is
what I’m going to work towards.”
[9:06] And it was funny, because she did this session
with me, where we went through—I don’t know
if I told you this, Justin—where we went
through my core essences.
And there was three of them.
And one of mine was purpose, and it was my
lens that I see the world through.
And she said, “You need purpose in order
That was so true, and that made me realize,
this job is great, but I don’t get purpose.
That’s the thing that’s lacking.
But Co-Creation Coaching I get purpose.
[9:42] So that was my deepest desire, though—that
is my deepest desire, and that’s what I’m
going to go after.
What If You Just Get Part of Your Goal?
[9:48] Brandon: I see this all the time with people, and I’ve
done it myself, where you get part of what
you want, and you give up, because it’s like,
“It’s good enough.
What if I don’t get more?
What if the rest of it doesn’t come?”
[10:05] I think this will tie in well to what you
mentioned, Justin—what you wanted to cover
today, about, you get part of it, and you
What do you do with that?
Because that’s very common, because especially
when you’re working with an ultimate level
goal, your deepest desire, a soul-level passion—it’s
not just going to come all at once most times.
There’s so much that has to be done subconsciously
to allow that to grow within you that it’s
just not all going to happen at once.
[10:42] So a lot of times, something might come along
where you see part of it.
Either you see an opportunity where you can
get part of it but not all, or you actually
really do get part of it but not all.
What do you do?
[10:57] Justin: Well, when you get part of it, you
have to decide, “Is this good enough?”
Now if you really got your deep soul-level
desire, and you know what it is, when you
get part of it, you’re going to say, “No.”
[11:14] What you want to do is to use that, and tell
the Universe, “Yes, this is part of it,
this feels good, but I want you to help me
keep going, because we haven’t reached our
[11:24] So you’re going to use that as a stepping
Don’t worry about, “I wasn’t working at
that job,” or “I wasn’t at that group,”
or “I wasn’t doing this for too long.”
Just keep doing it, and then go to the next
step, until you get your actual desire.
Don’t stop there and say, “Oh, that’s good
[11:43] No, it’s not good enough, because your goal
You only got two-thirds of the way there.
Let’s say you got half-way there.
And then, no, that’s not good enough: you’re
only half-way to X.
[11:55] I don’t know, you say you want to make—give
me a title—you want to make $100,000 a year.
You got a job making $58,000 a year.
And then on the side, you’re doing your business,
and you’re making about $15,000 a year with
[12:12] That’s not $100,000 a year.
So you then need to go and figure out how
you’re going to make $100,000.
You might stay there for a year, maybe, or
six months to a year, but your goal to make
$100,000 a year does not stop, if that’s what
you really want.
[12:30] Unless you get a spot—a position—or you
get into a place where you look and say, “Wait
My core desires are actually met.”
[12:39] So if your core itself is met—if you look
at a job and you realize, “Wait a minute,
some of the stuff that I really wanted, I
Some of the stuff I thought I wanted, and
now that I see it and I’m working, or I’m
in a relationship, or I’m dating this woman
or this man, and suddenly I realize, oh wait,
she really does do what I need, or the job
does do what I need.”
Then I’m not going to go any further.
I’m going to hang there and enjoy that, and
maybe I’ll do something some time down the
[13:12] But if that’s not really doing it for you,
you need to keep moving forward for that.
Don’t get scared.
Just keep going forward for it.
It Can Take Time to Discover Your Passion
[13:18] Brandon: Right, because sometimes we don’t
know what it is we want until we have it.
It’s like, “Oh, that’s what I wanted all
[13:27] Like when I was younger, I thought I wanted
to be like a professional psychic.
That was my thing.
I wanted to do professional readings, kind
of like Erin Pavlina.
[13:40] Christine: Though you kick butt at those.
[13:42] Brandon: Yeah, I’m good at doing readings.
[13:44] But that’s what I thought.
I’m going to be a psychic—I’m going to be
a professional psychic—to give readings,
and live on that.
And that’s not how things went.
[13:55] I tried somewhat to do that.
I started different projects, and I started
different spiritual websites and whatnot,
and I thought, well, maybe I’ll do spiritual
teachings, like non-duality based spiritual
[14:10] Christine: Yuck.
[14:12] Brandon: [laugh] That’s Christine’s favorite
by the way.
[14:16] Christine: [laugh]
[14:17] Brandon: Maybe I’ll do that.
And then I tried that, and then, eh…not
[14:23] And then I stumbled across NLP, which I got
my certification in, and almost did hypnotherapy,
but I started to do it, and eh…that’s not
[14:34] And then just through doing NLP, I stumbled
on the law of attraction, and realized the
power that we have, and realized how many
people miss out on that.
[14:46] It took me about a year of really tinkering
with it, but realized that I could figure
it out, and teach other people how it really
[14:59] So that hit the spot.
That was like, yes.
That’s the thing.
That’s the thing I want to do.
[15:09] Sometimes you don’t know what it is.
I could have thought, “Yeah I want to be
And I could have had that handed to me on
a silver platter, and then I probably would
have realized, “Mmm, not so much.”
[15:23] Because even right now, I don’t remember if
I took them down yet, but I’m planning on
it—but I had readings available.
And you’d think, well that’s what I wanted
to do when I was younger.
I wanted to do readings and be a professional
[15:40] But I realized that that wasn’t where my passion
was for me, and I need to focus more anyway
on what I really want to do.
So I’m going to take down those readings.
[15:51] Even though, yes, like Christine said, I’m
good at it, but that’s not the core, deepest
[16:01] I think the reason was, I realized, doing
readings, I’m telling people what’s going
to happen, rather than helping them get what
they want to happen, and that’s the difference.
[16:16] Not to say in a coaching session you can’t
warn them, “Hey, intuitively, I feel like
you’re headed down this path, and so you might
want to change that.”
[16:23] Christine: And I kind of think coaching, too,
is kind of using your intuition in a more
I’m not saying that readings aren’t mature,
but it’s using your intuition in a way that’s
saying, “Okay, here’s what you can do.
Here’s what I’d suggest that you do, but it’s
[16:43] Brandon: As a psychic doing readings, I would
get just questions I really didn’t care about,
that really didn’t…
[16:52] Christine: “Tell me about my love life.”
I don’t want to!
[16:54] Brandon: …didn’t matter to me.
[16:55] Justin: Yeah it is annoying sometimes.
I mean, honestly, for me it’s fun.
I’ll just practice the skills anyways.
I’ll tell you whatever you want.
[17:07] And then somebody once said, “No, if I can’t
have them, no one else can.”
I’m like, “Okay.
I’m ending this in 10 minutes flat.”
[laugh] “We’re done.”
[17:20] Brandon: [laugh] Yeah, and then I feel bad
giving bad news.
Like, “I just don’t feel it’s there.”
“But I need this to happen!”
[17:28] Christine: But I still ask Brandon for intuitive
And I think it’s fine.
But doing actual readings, I don’t know.
[17:36] Brandon: So yeah, you can do whatever, but
sometimes you don’t know what that is until
you stumble upon it.
Like, “Oh I thought I liked this one thing,
and then it turns out, not so much.”
And that’s valuable information.
[17:49] But like you were saying, Justin, when you
come across part of what you want, you have
the option of how you want to proceed from
[18:04] In some cases, if you get a job that matches,
say, seven out of ten points, but it’s just
not that full thing, but you’re just doing
it because, “Well, what if I don’t get something
Run the other way as quickly as possible!!!
Don’t do it!
[18:20] Justin: No, don’t do it.
And don’t settle.
[18:23] Brandon: Don’t settle, no.
[18:26] Justin: If you do it, you need to understand
you’re doing it to advance.
So what Brandon did was he took this job,
and he’s using it to fund his business.
That is a constructive way to take something
that is not the full thing, and then use it
to get the full thing.
That’s what I’m looking to do with my next
job, is something like that.
Don’t Lose the Vision of Your Purpose
[18:48] Brandon: But always keep that final goal in
And that’s the thing.
And that’s what I talked to my last client
about, was, okay do the transitional thing
if you have to, but don’t give up the dream.
Because if that’s your soul’s deepest passion—if
that’s what you really want to do—your deepest
desire—you have to keep that dream going.
Don’t lose the vision.
[19:15] Because some people will, “Oh, I’ll take
this job until I make it in my side business,”
and then they just get so…
I don’t want to say lazy, but so caught up
in the day-to-day grind of the job, and being
tired when they come home.
[19:35] And that’s how I was for the first two months
of my job.
I just didn’t have energy to do Co-Creation
[19:41] Justin: No, and that’s what you can’t do,
I mean that is to me… the first two to three
months of a full job, okay, fine.
But afterwards, I say three months.
Three months into your full-time job—not
that you’re going to have it all down yet,
but you have got to have the ability to continue
with that side business, to your actual passion.
[20:05] Now you might have to take a break to get
your body acclamated to it, and then you have
to decide—you have to step up and do it.
Because if you’re just taking the job to get
the side business going, then that’s the purpose
of the job.
The purpose of the job is not your be-all
[20:28] I know we’re focusing on jobs a lot, but convert
this to something else.
This is really simple.
Take the job, and actually use it to fund
your side business.
That’s its purpose.
Other than that, you’ve got a dead job.
[20:45] Brandon: Right.
[20:46] So yeah, don’t lose the vision of what you
want, because that is what keeps you going.
That is what your soul feeds on.
Your soul needs a dream—needs something
to keep it alive.
And if it doesn’t get that, then you’re dead.
[21:12] I’ve said this before.
I always saw, growing up, my mother as an
example of what kind of life I did not want
Because she had the day-to-day job.
She was in sales for a lot of her life, since
I was born anyway.
And she did that, and nothing else.
And came home at the end of the day, and watched
TV, ate dinner, watched TV the rest of the
night, went to bed, got up in the morning,
did it all over again, day after day after
day after day after day.
[21:51] And I said, “I will never, never lead that
Because it doesn’t do anything.
I just can’t fathom.
[22:03] And I know someone else, someone in Christine’s
family, who has told me how she gave up her
dream to do what she’s doing now, and she
She wishes she could go back and do it all
[22:16] And that, to me, is so sad, because I couldn’t
I’ve tried to deny my dreams, and it kills
I can’t—I’m not strong enough for that I
[laugh] But why should I be?
Why should you try to do that?
[22:34] I used to try to do the thing, like Christine’s
family would nag at me, “When are you going
to get a real job,” “when are you going
to go back to school,” or whatever, and
I tried doing—I talked about the internship
before, and it lasted like two weeks, and
I just—this is not worth it.
You know what?
It’s not worth it.
And I quit that.
And it just wasn’t going to happen.
So don’t give up the dream when you’re doing
It just won’t work.
Let Yourself Want It All
[23:04] Brandon: Now the other thing that I want to mention
is, I think people feel selfish.
[23:13] Christine: Yes, that’s a big one.
[23:16] Brandon: The one thing I told my client just
before this was, let yourself want the whole
kit and caboodle—the whole thing—the whole
You want this, this, this, and the money to
go along with it, and the freedom, and this
other thing, and this other thing.
Let yourself want the whole thing!
[23:39] Justin: And the other thing people are afraid
of is, “If I get this, I’ll get judged by
all these other people.”
Man, don’t worry about that.
Those other people aren’t giving you anything.
[23:51] Brandon: Exactly.
[23:53] But let yourself want the whole thing.
Let yourself want to achieve all of it, not
just some of it.
[24:03] And I think—we had a great conversation
about this, and I agree about it totally—that
as spiritual people, this whole thing about
light workers and whatnot, that we tend to
have this guilt complex about, “Well I have
to serve the world and help others,” and
not worry about my own desires.
[24:25] Justin: No, you don’t do that.
[24:27] Brandon: I’ll tell you what I told this person
at the end of our session.
I said that if it is something that awakens
your soul—that really makes your soul sing—then
it is your purpose.
It is what you’re meant to do in life.
It is what you’re meant to go after.
And no one can tell you otherwise.
[24:54] Because otherwise, life isn’t worth living.
What’s the point of life, if that soul passion
It can happen if you—and I’m not saying
it’ll be easy, but it can happen if you put
in the work to bring it about.
[25:13] It won’t be handed to you.
The Universe won’t say, “Oh, here you go,
here’s why you’re here, and I’m just going
to hand it to you.”
No, it won’t do that.
But, if you work at it, if you change those
subconscious programs—because I guarantee
that that soul passion is never going to be
It’s always going to be something you have
to overcome a lot of things to get to.
[25:36] But if you do that, and put in the work, and
manifest it, and do everything you have to
do, you will get there.
[25:47] But it will be a life-long journey of more,
and more, and more, and more, and more.
Not to say you can’t have all of that early
on, but once you have all of it, guess what?
You’re going to want more.
And then once you have that, guess what?
You’re going to want more.
And it’s a life-long journey of more, and
more, and more.
[26:05] But that’s what it’s about.
I mean, why should you wait until, let’s say
retirement age, to finally start living your
Why would you want that?
And there’s no reason why you can’t.
Whatever that deepest desire is, do it!
Don’t waste your whole life just on being
responsible, and on doing what society expects
of you, and settling for something less than
what you really wanted.
Why would you waste 65 years of your life,
and then, “Oh, now I’m retired, now I can
go do what I want to do with my life.
For the next 10, or 15, or 20 years.”
[26:45] What if you could spend 50 years doing what
you want to do?
What if you could spend 60 years doing what
you want to do.
[26:51] Justin: Or 80 years.
[26:53] Brandon: Or 80 years.
[26:56] Justin: In fact, you have a better chance
of spending 80 or 90 years doing what you
want to do, plus that, if you actually live
in that dream.
You have a better shot at it.
[27:07] Brandon: Right.
[27:09] So, go for the whole thing.
Shoot for the moon, as they say.
You just don’t want to settle, because settling
never, ever, ever, ever feels good.
I’ve never talked to someone who said, “Yeah
I settled for something less than I wanted
to, but yeah, I’m pretty happy.”
I mean they might say that, but they’re doing
it in denial.
[27:30] Justin: Or they might be happy in the…
[27:32] Brandon: In the moment.
[27:33] Justin: …content sort of way.
Not happy in the fulfilled way.
Contentment’s okay, but it’s not fulfillment.
It’s not even close.
[27:45] Brandon: No.
So that’s what you really have to shoot for.
You have to shoot for everything.
You want the whole thing.
And don’t feel selfish about that, because
that is what you were sent here to do.
[27:58] If it weren’t the case, then you wouldn’t
If that desire didn’t really make you just
feel so alive, then that wouldn’t be your
But it does, and so it is.
And that’s really what you have to keep in
How to Discover Your Deepest Desire
[28:19] Brandon: So, ask yourself–because some of us don’t
even know what it is that they really want.
[laugh] So, ask yourself, “If I could have
anything, I could do anything, I could be
anything in life, regardless of financial
considerations, regardless of responsibilities,
regardless of what seems even possible.
What is it I would want to do?
What is it that I would want to be doing in
That’s the question to ask yourself.
And then make it work.
[28:58] Once you figure that out, then ask yourself,
“What if I knew in all certainty that I
could do this tomorrow, without any worries
of finances, or practicalities, or anything
And feel that feeling, and let that be your
focusing point for your goal.
And that’s it.
[29:18] And I’m not saying—this is an ultimate level
goal in most cases, unless you’ve come a long
[laugh] So I’m not saying it’ll all happen
It won’t all happen at once.
I mean it could, but it usually won’t.
[29:36] But, let it grow within yourself.
Let it gestate within yourself.
And it will come about, and things will start
happening in your life.
And you will start seeing more and more proof
that this is possible, and you will make a
pathway to that goal, because you’re open
to it, and because you choose to have it,
and because you’ve given yourself permission
to go after it.
And that’s really what it is.
[30:09] So, yes, it’s an ultimate level goal, but
just by allowing yourself to want it, and
living your life around that awareness that
this is where it’s going, it’ll lead there
It has to, because that’s your passion—that’s
[30:31] I love Joseph Campbell, who says, “Follow
I think that’s perfect.
[30:40] And we worry so much about what’s responsible,
what’s considerate, what’s practically a good
idea, what’s logical… but none of that leads
to following your bliss.
So follow your bliss to the best of your ability
[30:58] And if you have to do something in the meantime
like I’m doing, fine, but you know the end
goal, and you know that you will get there
at some point, because that’s within you—that’s
growing within you.
Why This Topic Is So Important to Me
[31:15] Brandon: So, I think that’s pretty much all that can
be said about that.
[31:26] It’s just something that I’ve always been
very passionate about, like I said, because
I’ve always been…
I mean, I don’t know if I invest in this whole
idea of indigo children or whatever, but for
me, I’ve just always been the type who says,
“You know what?
I have a purpose, I’m here for something,
and I’m going to do it.”
[31:49] For a long time, I doubted in that.
I used to tell Christine, “I thought I had
a purpose, but what if I don’t?”
Remember that Christine?
[31:58] Christine: Yes!
[31:59] Brandon: “What if I don’t?”
Because it wasn’t going anywhere!
I wasn’t getting anything!
[32:03] Christine: And you were driving me up a wall.
[32:05] Brandon: I know.
[32:07] Christine: If I could, I would have picked
you up and shaken you.
[32:08] Brandon: [laugh]
[32:09] But I just—you know, when you live your
life for years and you see no sign of your
purpose… everyone now, you see me like all
You see me after all that I went through.
[32:20] Christine: Oh trust me!
He probably gave me the gray hair I have on
[laugh] No, I’m just kidding.
[32:25] Brandon: But it wasn’t easy.
I mean, it was hard.
It was years of just nothing.
[32:32] And that gets tiring.
Because I thought, “I always thought I had
What if I don’t?
What if I’m meant to just…”
[32:43] Christine: Wallow away.
[32:44] Brandon: “…live life and whatever, and
there’s no guarantee of doing anything special.”
[32:49] But you know what?
After I really got into all this, all of that
[32:55] So, I was always the type that knew, until
my kind of—I don’t know if I’d call it depression…
it kind of was in a way, though, I suppose,
because when you don’t have a purpose to drive
you forward, it’s like, “What’s the point?”
[33:08] But until that time, I always knew, “Okay,
there’s something I’m here for.”
I’ve always been very passionate about this
topic for that reason.
I saw all around me people who settled, people
who compromised, and they were by and large
And I did not want that for myself.
[33:30] Justin: No, you don’t.
[33:31] Brandon: Yeah, no.
[33:33] So that is why I am talking about this today,
and why I’m very passionate about it.
Because you can, and will, with effort, get
what you want, if you work at it.
[33:45] So that is our topic for today.
I appreciate everyone listening.
[33:51] And again, if you would like to see the show
notes for this podcast, or the transcript,
or leave a comment, which we always appreciate
when you share your thoughts with us, you
can go to darkascent.org/create021.
[34:11] And if you’d like to subscribe to us on iTunes,
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[34:21] So I really appreciate everyone listening
If you have questions or thoughts on this,
feel free to go to the show notes and leave
a comment, and we’d really love that.
[34:31] But otherwise, thank you for listening in.
I am Brandon Olivares.
[34:43] Christine: And I’m Christine Olivares.
[34:54] Justin: And I’m Justin Williams.
[35:01] Brandon: Anything is possible!
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