In this Spiritual Freedom Support Call, we introduce The Order of the Black Flame, discuss the difference between the law of attraction and magic, how rituals can help with resistance, how to know if a technique should be repeated, plus much more.
- [18:35] Rituals on the left-hand path.
- [25:48] Psychodrama in rituals.
- [30:42] An invitation to a group focused on magic.
- [37:55] Law of attraction is watered-down magic.
- [41:08] Are there risks with magic?
- [46:05] Ritual changes the subconscious mind faster.
- [50:00] How resistance works in rituals.
- [55:41] The role of law of attraction, in comparison to magical principles.
- [01:15:56] A moonstone angel for Frann.
- [01:29:25] How to use the journal technique.
- [01:34:07] Using intuition to know whether to repeat a technique.
- [01:44:06] Magic is real.
- [01:47:02] Split energy and resistance.
How About You?
Now it’s your turn. What are your thoughts on the topics discussed in today’s call? Let me know in the comments!
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Hahaha that cracked me up. Yeah, everything is a “risk”, so it’s either we choose to live or not.
As I mentioned before, a year ago these topics of magic and gods would still freak me out. However now I find them normal, and even interesting. I have kept learning more and more, and adjusting to the new information, backing off when I’d get overwhelmed, and eventually I’ve expanded myself quite well. That’s why I definitely understand why many people probably aren’t ready for magic. I introduced LOA to my sister about a year ago, and she’s been getting more understanding, but a lot of times things that I say are just too much for her. I understand that, since I were there too. This is why I’m sure that keeping the LOA form as a main thing on this website is a good idea. Many people really aren’t ready for deeper stuff.
It’s the same with goals, especially big goals. I am still very different from the kind of person I want to be. I choose my goal every day, but jumping straight there to the goal would probably be too much for my subconscious. I’m getting there steadily though.
I just wanna ask, is journaling twice a day for a goal too much? If I choose my goal twice a day, and journal at night, is it still okay if I journal in the morning too, or should I limit the journaling only to night, and simply visualize in the morning?
Also, good thing that you mentioned that being able to feel the energy is important. I definitely need to develop that skill.
I’m also wondering if black magic rituals can be used for healing the physical body. I’ve been vomiting nearly every night, and I keep getting awful abdominal pain. I’ve had these health issues for 6 and a half years now, and no doctor and medicine has ever helped me. I want to say good riddance to these health issues once and for all.
Rituals can be used for just about anything, so yes, definitely. 🙂
Hi Z,
Thanks for your comments.
Yeah I think most people aren’t ready for this stuff. Most people aren’t even ready for the LOA, and a fraction of those ready for the LOA can actually go as far as magic.
And of course, my particular flavor of the LOA is rather magical to begin with. It’s quite active, not the passive methods of most. But it gets results. 🙂
Regarding journaling, I mean I suppose you could technically, but personally I’d have trouble coming up with enough stories to make it interesting. Do what feels right to you though.
And regarding energy, I plan on covering that a great deal in the Neophyte level, because it’s an essential skill of magic. I’m honestly surprised sometimes how out of touch certain people are with their own creations. It’s important to keep an eye on how the energy is doing and adjust as necessary.
Thanks for the answers! I really wish to be healthy once and for all, because I’m tired of all the pain. Last night I was so weak and in so much pain, that I couldn’t do what I wanted to do, including choosing my goals. I was forced in a way to go to bed early while skipping these essential things.
Just liked you advised Kat to choose health for her knee, I also started choosing health, high-energy and the body I want. I mean, since the health issues have kept poking at me so often, it was only logical to start choosing health, and use creative tension.
Hi Z,
Well, as I said in the call, I’m usually lazy about my own goals, but I still get them. So don’t worry too much if you couldn’t deliberately work on your goals last night. Plus, sometimes I think a bit of a break from them is just what your subconscious mind needs to catch up.
Choosing health is definitely a good idea. 🙂
Well if you are getting results while being lazy, then that’s a good sign for all of us. 😛
Anyway, I still wonder if Christine and Frann were affected by the Moon being in Aries.
Oops, I absolutely forgot about that. Christine says she wasn’t affected too much. She’s always a bit tired because she has to do a lot for her church.
Let’s see if I can tag @Frann and get her to respond as well. 🙂
I see, thanks. Seems like it doesn’t effect everyone equally. Or is it maybe because our personal New Moon happened at the same time of the real New Moon?
If I remember correctly, your last personal New Moon happened at the time of the real Full Moon. Do you think there’s a connection there?
Z,
Personally, and this is just me, I’d keep my journaling to once a day, unless I felt the urge to do so and the feeling was right. I wouldn’t force two a day.
I don’t use journaling often, but I do every once and a while, and it’s something I’m going to start doing more of. I’ve noticed that it’s a really good day to become interactive with the energy.
but, go with your gut. If it says two or three times on Monday, once on Tuesday, and none on Wednesday, and Thursday, but once on Friday, then go with that. Work with the energy flow in the way it feels you should.
Justin
Thanks, Justin! I appreciate your advice. Actually yeah even I felt that sometimes 2 times a day was kind of a stretch. What you say about going with my gut seems right. I guess I’ll keep it for the night (provided it feels right), and then simply visualize in the morning.
Hi. I’m responding to Z’s comment about whether Christine and I were affected by the New Moon in Aries earlier in week due to us both being Aries sun signs.
In case, I was affected in quite a big way. I started feeling a shift of energy before and after -still feeling it. Like I want start going in a new direction, fresh starts, etc. Very positive. Aries is the sign of new beginnings. It’s not overwhelming, but definitely there. Thanks for asking, Z.
Hey, Frann! 🙂
I appreciate your response. I was wondering, because when Moon was in Brandon’s sign (I forgot which one), he said that his energy dropped, if I remember correctly. I am Aries like you and Christine, and was interested in seeing if anything would come up for me. I didn’t feel any change while the Moon was in Aries, even though I had assumed that my energy would drop too.
What you say you felt seems very interesting! This is probably a good thing, based on how good you seem to feel. 🙂 Oh yeah and congratulations on the moonstone angel! It was interesting to hear about that, and the mystery veil around the unknown sender.
Fran,
You will be seeing a lot more things just pop into your life like that, believe me. Lovely story about the lovely crystal.?
I agree with Justin not to look into it at all and just accept it and be thankful. I place it under the category of “signs”, which is not only communication when needing a response of some sort but also various indications that you are being looked after. Cheers!
Oops, Frann. Sorry, that was my iphone at work.
Hi Brandon,
Your blog has reignited my interest in magic, metaphysics and the occult. When I was a little girl and through my early teens, I loved and was fascinated with divination, astrology, tarot, palmistry, paranormal, fairies and other nature spirits. I’m feeling really drawn to crystals and rituals right now. It’s fun to get back into this. 🙂
Even when I wasn’t actively practicing magic, I’ve always felt a very strong resonance with the otherworldly and non-physical. I observe this a lot in my singing and songs I write, for example. I don’t like writing about real world type of situations, or even placing much emphasis on words and storytelling at all. My aim with music is to take people to another place of lighter and less dense matter and pure emotion.
Your order is very intriguing. I’m thinking of joining, but am not sure if I’d be right for it. It does sound like a good community to delve deeper into magic with. I have some fear around going too deep into magic and losing touch with the outside world or my personal desires, as strange as that may sound. As for rituals, right now doing a really elaborate and structured ritual set up feels like too much for me, but performing a simpler yet focused ritual for my goals sounds appealing.
Like you, I also hate when LOA teachers say that it doesn’t matter if you get what you want if you get the emotion. That pisses me off to no end! If I didn’t want my stuff, I wouldn’t be learning about the LOA!
Recently I’ve been feeling kind led to only focus on my goals once a day, or twice a day if one of the sessions lasts only a few minutes. I’m finding that focusing on my current next level goals twice a day for 5-10 minutes is overkill. Sometimes focusing on my goals, as I’ve been focusing on them for 1-2 months, can feel kind of flat. I feel that I may need to take a short break of a day or so, but I don’t want to disrupt the momentum.
Congratulations to everyone with your new jobs and upcoming book releases! 🙂 And Fran’s crystal story is really wonderful! It really does sound like that angel was meant to be with her and will assist her on her journey. I was recently led to purchase a crystal that I had been eying for a while. It’s a beautiful, mystical amethyst spirit quartz with long fingers, very sparkly and fairy-like. I feel that this crystal was truly meant to be mine, as many people were watching it on Etsy and it had been on sale several times, but it was still left for me to purchase. 🙂 I’m really looking forward to it arriving!
There is another crystal that I’ve been looking at too that I can’t get out of my head. It’s a beautiful small hyalite opal, very unique and mystical looking/feeling. I don’t know why I’m so drawn to it. I experience the same thing with other items, such as clothing, too. The right item just speaks to you and you just can’t forget about it. It doesn’t happen often, but when it does, I feel like it’s a nudge from my higher self.
I’m looking forward to your class Brandon! Will you also be discussing rituals too or will you save that for the order?
Hi R,
Thanks so much for your comment.
I have always been connected to magic as well. My problem is that I couldn’t find my place in it until now. I think I mentioned this during the call? But I don’t remember.
Basically, Wicca was too feel-good, and also I didn’t like the ritual structure. Ceremonial magic was way too formal, and a lot of it was visual. There’s not a lot of room for flexibility, either. Plus most of them use Judeo-Christian symbolism, which I don’t like.
The left-hand path has been great for me. I’ve done two rituals now, and they’ve both been insanely enjoyable. 😀 I have confidence in those rituals that is hard for me to find in everyday life. I’m very reserved and shy in normal life, but in the ritual I can really open up to the gods.
I think you’d be perfect for the order. I have been emailing certain of those I thought would be fit, and you were on the list of those I planned on emailing. Of course the decision is yours.
I understand your fear. Some occultists / magicians can indeed kind of float off into space, lol. Self-delusion is a risk on any spiritual path, not only in magic.
However, you seem pretty grounded to me. And I think a group setting is a good way of preventing against that kind of thing, because there are other people who can see how you are doing.
If you have questions about it, just let me know.
As far as rituals, I won’t be talking about any specific ones, or really ritual theory at all, in The Art of Reality Creation 2.0. It’ll be LOA theory / techniques, plus some NLP. Not to say that those techniques can’t serve as a good foundation for magic, as they certainly do. 🙂
That’s awesome about your crystal! I know what you mean about just feeling connected with certain things like that.
Hi Brandon,
Thank you! It’s very flattering to hear that you were considering me inviting me. 🙂 I will have to think about it a little more, and prepare my application answers. It is mostly forum based with weekly/monthly calls, is that right? So it would mostly take place on a private forum and in the comments of private posts? It sounds like it would revolve around posts that are quite similar to your most recent one. Would you still focus on using magic to attain goals, or just magic in general? (Sorry if that doesn’t make sense!)
I’m not a big fan of Judeo-Christian symbolism either. I had some interest in paganism and Wicca when I was 11 or 12, but I never really got into it. There was also a time when I was really into Eastern philosophies (Buddhism, Taoism, etc.) Ceremonial magic also feels too formal and rigid to me. I’m not someone who really likes organized religion, but I can see how it can really enhance other peoples’ lives.
I love the energetic and spiritual world, but I also love the material world and all of its beauty and pleasures too. For some people, it seems as if there entire life is consumed by the occult or spirituality. If it’s their greatest passion in life then good for them, but it also seems that many people (me included) get too caught up in spirituality instead of actually living life, pursuing their dreams and relationships. Spirituality, the occult and metaphysics all seem to draw people who are very prone to getting lost in the higher dimensions of reality, lol.
This is really true about other things, such as music too. There are many musicians (who are often extremely talented, creative geniuses even) who go way, way too far (for my taste) into experimentation. It’s quite common in subgenres of electronic music. I love music with an experimental edge and that is fresh and pushes boundaries, but there is a fine line between innovation and making something that is, I hate to say, unlistenable, boring or really just noise. I love melody and beautiful sounds, even if these are mainstream constructs that we’ve been indoctrinated to like.
Thank you! I’m really looking forward to my new crystal. I feel they are very powerful tools for our subconscious mind and focusing on our goals.
There is a rough lava rock from Iceland that I’ve been keeping near my computer. Not only does it feel very grounding and stabilizing, but it also reminds me of the Icelandic countryside, which I really love.
Recently, I also got a small lapis lazuli sphere for free. 🙂 It fits perfectly in my palm. Perhaps I will get a bigger sphere later on, but the one I have now is still really beautiful and powerful. I’m using it for one of my goals, which it’s perfect for, but even just holding it throughout the day feels very calming and comforting.
Ooh I look forward to learning about NLP and your new techniques! It seems like it will be a fun and in-depth class.
Hi R,
I’m glad you will consider. So far we have 5 members. I imagine it staying pretty small overall, since it takes a certain type of person to get involved with this kind of thing.
There are two general sections: the forum, where discussion, questions, and so on, can be posted. I want to encourage interaction among the members as much as possible.
Then there is a section of articles, and eventually, possibly weekly or biweekly posts. I’m still developing that section. It’ll be separated by degree. Soon I’ll be writing some articles on basic magical theory, giving a basic ritual template, etc.
There is also a reading list of recommended books. They aren’t required or anything, but it’s good to be well-read on this stuff.
Then, yes, there are the monthly calls (frequency up in the air right now). The first one will take place next week since it’s the first week of April.
Once we get things moving along, I plan on offering for each new member to work one-on-one with someone to give specific help in whatever is needed. That’ll come later on though.
Magic will be both general as well as specific. You know I’m pretty pragmatic in my approach. If it’s not getting results, it’s thrown out. 🙂 So, the end goal is to get results, at least with that type of magic.
I know it’s definitely a risk for people to get lost in all this. I think it’s good to balance spirit and matter.
Your lava rock sounds very cool. 🙂
Thank you for your helpful answers. 🙂 I will have to prepare my application responses!
I imagine that, like you said, only a certain type of person would be interested in going deeper into magic. I wish more LOA teachers went deeper, beyond just feeling good or understanding the mechanics behind the LOA. Those things are important of course, but I feel that magic and ritual is very powerful. It sounds like you are really creating a lot of content for the order!
Thanks, I love my rock. 🙂 I love it’s presence, and it also brings up many happy memories for me.
Hi R,
Thanks. I look forward to seeing your application.
Yeah, it’d be nice if more LOA teachers would go into this stuff. But, otherwise I don’t think it would be as popular. That which is true tends not to be popular… in fact they often seem to be inversely proportional, just in my own experience.
Thanks Brandon. 🙂
Doubts around my goals have been coming up today. It’s so strange because I have actually been feeling more confident about them lately, so I don’t know why these doubts are suddenly arising.
Hi R,
As I’ve described before, sometimes there are layers of resistance. You might have broken through a few layers and experienced a time of peace, but then another layer comes up to be released. It is perfectly normal.
Yes, I remember you saying that. 🙂 This process is very much a never ending cycle, kind of like a rollercoaster. The clarity/breakthrough though on the other side of resistance is always delicious.
Yes it is. That’s my favorite. 🙂
Brandon,
Great call, as always.
Stones of any kind, not just precious or crulystsls, I believe contain helpful energy. In the Getting Everything You Ever Wanted book, it is mentioned to have stones at your altar, as long as you feel something for them, no matter what the type. I think anything coming from the earth has intelligence to it, if this makes sense.
So much is going on (a great thing) I can’t keep up with all the happenings here and in my life.
Oh, who was you NLP teacher again?
Thanks, Kat. I’m glad you liked the call. 🙂
My NLP teacher was Mike Bundrant, from iNLPCenter.
R, it would be great to have you. What symbolism do you like? I’m hoping to talk to you as a part of the Order of the Black Flame, but if your path is different, then that is okay. Maybe down the road.
Justin
Hi Justin,
I’m pretty open in terms of symbolism. I would say I’m probably most aligned with nature-based symbolism or even just traditional LOA terms if that makes sense. 🙂
it does. Outstanding.
Brandon, would you say that feeling good throughout the day is crucial for manifesting our desires? Today I woke up and realized that nothing has moved regarding my goals. I’m now trying to debug the situation. Something is very wrong, and I need to find what it is.
Hi Z,
Throughout the day—no, not necessarily. I mean I wouldn’t say that I’m on average super joyful or anything.
What makes the difference is how you feel when you think of your goals. If that is negative, then you need to change that.
Z, first discern what signs of movement the you may have seen. Also, how long have you been working on this goal. If you haven’t seen any movement, or you’ve not achieved your goal yet after a long enough time, remember, we say one to three months usually for next level goals, then you will want to do what I call plumbing the manifestation. That means you sit in meditation, and feel where the energy is blocked. the negative thoughts, fears, and emotions associated with the manifestation should lead you to the blocked energy. Use your choice of technique to allow the blocked energy to pass through.
Thanks, Justin. I’ll try that, sit in meditation and bring one of my goals up. My goals of having a lot of friends showed some movement a few months ago, right before the semester ended. Then there were no lectures for more than a month, even though I kept choosing my goal. And now it’s been a month of the new semester, but the situation is worse than it was before the last semester ended. That’s really been puzzling me.
Z, Having a lot of friends is both too much, and not specific enough. Try a goal of making a few friends. And, not to sound mundane, but here is a tip, and you can consider this a part of the energy process of breaking down resistance. Write down your hobbies, and the places you want to go. Also, write down the kind of things you’d like to do with your friends. Match them up, and go to those places. You can just write down the hobbies and the places you like to go and just go there really and find a few friends. But, writing down the kind of friends you want, their character traits is a way to be extra specific. ALso, you can try journaling the things you and your friends did together. That is a great reason to use the journaling technique.
Thanks, Justin. I actually do journal about things that my friends and I did, and the plans we have for the weekend or summer. I get into the feeling of what it was like. However you really gave me a great tip! Connecting my hobbies to places and what I would do with friends seems very useful! I will definitely do that.
As for character traits, I know certain traits that I’d like them to have, even though I would like a variety of people, too. I guess that focusing simply on these traits that mean a lot to me would be more than enough. Thank you a lot! 🙂
Brandon,
Many spells require the use of fire to burn the piece of paper you write on. Since this really is a fire hazard where I live, I think ripping the paper up into shreds has the same effect. I’ve tried this in the past and it worked.
Just wondering how you use fire, if you do.
Hi Kat,
I don’t. I’m honestly kind of terrified of using fire, lol. My childhood home burned down when I was 11.
I want to eventually learn, or else find other ways around it, but for now, I just don’t use it. I don’t think it’s required.
Oh my! So was Nathalie Thompson’s house when she was young.
Yes, it is scary using it, although powerful but it has consequences and you can’t use the extinguisher for every spell either because you can’t deplete it.
I agree we can work around it with just as good results but I will also look into it.
I just want to give you some ways to be active with it. Remember, we also have to take the actions we can.
Justin
Brandon, I remember that before, someone asked you about how to find their life purpose or something. I’m not sure what you suggested them, maybe some meditation or something. And I also remember that recently someone (I think CJ) asked you the same question, and you mentioned that we have to be patient, like in your case it took years for you to find what you would like to do for living.
What would your advice be now? As I mentioned before I’m studying mechanical engineering, but I’m really not interested in it. The deeper we go with the stuff, the less interesting I find it to be, and the harder it is for me to force myself to study for exams and do the assignments. I feel like the whole thing’s been dying for quite some time now. I know I need to start making my own money, and I’ve been focusing on my goal of manifesting a specific amount of money for quite some time now, but I also know that I’d like to know my (current) direction in life. I have to keep the college until I manage to support myself financially, but it’s been getting progressively harder. I don’t want to keep forcing myself to study something I don’t like.
My parents are currently supporting me financially, because they believe I will eventually graduate, and get employed in the field of what I’m studying. I know I’ll have to be able to manifest a sufficient amount of money per month, before I can break the whole thing off. Can I use my will to find my (current) purpose in life? Or should I just focus on manifesting money right now?
Hi Z,
My advice is the same as always. it takes time. And, it’s a constantly unfolding thing as well. I always knew the general flavor of my life purpose, but the specifics didn’t start coming in until much, much later.
You’re in a tough situation, I know. Honestly I’d focus on the practical stuff first. It’s hard to think about life purpose when you’re not even sure how to get money.
Ideally I’d tell you to find your own path right now and make it work. But, as I say in the podcast being published today, that’s not a good option unless you know it’ll work right away. The better option is to hang out where you are until you have the confidence to make a drastic shift.
The first thing you need to do, I think, is to know that there’s a solution. Then just focus on the feeling of that solution, and let that magical link between SU / OU (subjective universe / objective universe) bring it to you in more and more detail.
Thanks. I guess I’ll mainly focus on manifesting money then. Probably once I’m financially secured, I can relax enough to make those drastic changes. Good thing is that thanks to all the LOA / magical knowledge, I know that making money doesn’t require having a degree, or whatever other condition. I really wonder though, what I’ll be doing in life, once I get there. Your journey is pretty cool, and it serves as an inspiration to me. Especially since you went through multiple colleges like me, and are approximately the same age as me. 😛
I’m big into crystal healing and it sounds like the angel might actually be Opalite! Its a synthetic (glass) translucent stone with blue/yellow/pink overtones. It’s also a common one I’ve seen shaped into angels. It’s good for communication, energy blockages, persistence, bringing up hidden feelings, evening out moods and overcoming fatigue.
As an aside … This might be a minority opinion, but I’m honestly finding that looking at the law of attraction as the law Magic abides by makes understanding all of this easier. Maybe it’s just me being a physics major, but having the entire picture has made everything snap clear in a way it hadn’t previously. I had a major breakthrough after listening to this; I got inspired and did a pretty involved ritual that left me feeling good and clear and grounded in a way that I hadn’t felt with manifesting prior.
I think the other thing that has helped is looking at subconscious structures from a psychology standpoint. I had a good talk with my therapist about teaching your brain to have a different default emotion or outlook, or to not react out of proportion to things. She’s been helping me with mindfulness and controlling my anxiety as well. (As an aside, if anyone feels their mental illness is affecting their ability to manifest or, you know, life in general, take care of that first!!)
Seeing how this all connects to our innate ability to manifest our subjective universe within the objective universe has allowed me to approach manifestation in a less mechanical way. It’s like … before I really wanted it to be true. And now I know it’s true and it works.
That’s so awesome, Chaucer! That’s a vital part of the process: the step when you know that it works. This does all fit together, and it all comes from the same place. 🙂
Is there a way I can kind of get an introduction to the Order? I’m not sure if it is right for me or not, and I want to get more of an introduction to it first.
Hi Cody,
What sort of introduction? If you are interested, you can apply. If you have questions, feel free to ask.